Red Carpet Night Club – Security

The Red Carpet Night Club in St. Cloud is a great place to go and hang out, have some beers, listen to music, and the like. Recently, they have been in the news:

Police find man not breathing outside club

Here is a rebuttal to that article by Seth Malinksi (He doesn’t work for the Red Carpet and never has):

I would like to pre-empt this story by stating that I was NOT there at the time and I have NOT spoken directly to the person who is in the hospital. Also, some information may not be completely accurate but the MORAL of the story and the MOTIVATION behind the story can be seen without getting up in arms about a few specifics.

This is to all persons whom may have seen the Channel 5 News about the incident that happened at the Red Carpet on Thursday.

I have been a bouncer downtown St Cloud for over 3 years now. Obviously this situation is the most extreme and without understanding of how “downtown” works you may have already formed an opinion that is unfavorable to the security staff at the Red Carpet I beg you to read what follows and try to understand.

We work in an industry that serves a drug to people for a monetary charge. This drug is alcohol. Not everyone can be trusted to use this drug and maintain a copious relationship with society, police, and themselves. We work at places that invite people to drink at a cheap price with a great surrounding and offer the safety of our security.

Let’s face the facts. Most people can control how they act when under the influence of alcohol. A lot of people cannot. Alcohol inhibits the rational portion of the brain, the cognitive thinking, the motor skills (speech, walking, etc..) Alcohol is a depressant not a stimulant. Judgment is therefore muffled within an hour and decision making process is broken which leads to the reason why you as a customer need security. A lot of people drink from bar to bar, or from home to a bar, or do drugs before they come down to the bar. Many people become extremely agitated by alcohol. Some people are even allergic to alcohol. Voices get louder, people become irrational, and decisions are made without understanding or caring for the consequences.

Fast forward to Thursday April 7th 2004: A man enters the Red Carpet after spending some time with friends at other local bars. This man has a proven public history of drug use and abuse. This man enters the dance room located upstairs at the Red Carpet. He is celebrating graduation from SC Tech college and the birth of his 3rd child. This man begins to act irrationally and showing obvious signs of intoxication. Bartenders immediately recognize this behavior and stop serving the gentleman. He continues to act in this disruptive behavior and then a waitress contacts the security after she is sexually harassed by this man. Security then tries to escort this individual out of the premises. The man decides that he is not leaving. For some reason, in his mind he must be thinking that he is fine and that these “bouncers” are not going to ruin his night of fun and celebration just because he is too intoxicated and because he will swear that he did not assault a waitress. Nevermind the criminal and civil implications to the establishment with allowing someone in this condition to stay. Lawsuits galore…By employees who felt that the establishment did not take proper steps and was negligent in allowing a person to stay in the bar and assault waitresses and bartenders. Customers who can sue for the same premise liability. Then what if he falls down the stairs and breaks his neck, negligence on behalf of the security and the establishment for not making sure that the intoxicated individual did not get down the stairs safely, also if he does leave on his own then he gets in his car and wraps it around a tree and kills himself the bar is liable for negligently allowing someone to leave under obvious intoxication standards attached to the Dramm Shoppe laws of MN. Back to the situation, then the security approaches the man who is acting irrationally towards them as well and physically assaults and batters one security person. Now this man is showing signs of defiance and physical confrontation. A few more bouncers get involved and this man is fighting veraciously, (like a man on drugs..Stimulants of the sort in which he has already been convicted of gives persons who take these drugs almost superhuman adrenaline strength) He is pinned down on the ground and held by the neck. If someone is fighting you right now, and you could hold him down where would you grab him or her. Would you hold him by the arm so that he could kick and bite and hit you with his other arm, or would you try to make sure that the man is no longer in danger to yourself or to others? The man then stops breathing. The police arrive and handcuff the suspect and find out he is not breathing. Then the man is rushed to the hospital and is in critical condition because he has brain damage. Bad luck, poor decision making??? I don’t know but, You make the call but if you ask me this situation could happen in any establishment in any city at any time. Don’t judge the security or the Red Carpet because of this situation.

Now, this guy’s mother wants someone held responsible for what her son is going through. I think that the son should be held responsible for getting drunk out of his gourd and then acting like an idiot. If you start a fight, and then get your assed kicked, it is no one’s fault but your own. It would be nice if people like that were stopped at the door, and not even let in, except then they would go cause an accident, and then try to blame someone else for it. People need to start taking responsibility for their own actions.

Personally, I am glad that they have good security (and I’m not a small guy). People shouldn’t have to deal with flaming drunk morons at the bar. It should be a nice social place to hang out and just get out on the town. The Martini Bar at the Carpet is a perfect example of a “class act” bar. I don’t plan to not goto the Red Carpet anymore because of this, and I don’t think anyone else should either.

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4 thoughts on “Red Carpet Night Club – Security”

  1. here he! here he!

    I am a previous employee of the Carpet & I have been bombarded with questions about this whole “Smiley” thing. ARGH!
    My replies/comments/remarks are similar to your blog. I actually find myself a minority with my view points on this topic. It is nice to read that someone else out there is questioning “Smiley’s responsibly for his actions”

    I do feel for Smiley and his family and the anguish they are all going thru. This is really a misfortune them. But to blame the Carpet or the Security staff for Smiley’s choice to drink and assault others is just absurd. It would be no different if Smiley chose to drink and drive and an officer pulled him over. Would it be the officer’s fault for Smiley’s DWI? The Security person/staff was protecting the other guest at the Carpet by removing him – just as an officer would protect you from a Drunk Driver. It was Smiley’s choice to refuse to not leave, his choice to drink and his choice to be disruptive. Hmmmm

    Time to get off the soap box- it was mostly nice to know that my opinion is shared by others. Even if…our opinion makes us a minority.

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  2. what’s wrong with you! So it’s okay to beat a guy till he’s almost dead? don’t bouncers know how to handle situations like this with more caution? The way I understand it the guy came back to tell his ride he was ready to leave. what was he suppose to drive home intoxicated and kill someone elses mother, father etc.what about his family now? He has 3 children who might never get to see him again. I think the beating went alittle overboard

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  3. hello people! lets get all the facts. for ONE this dude doesn’t have 3 kids. He has ONE kid and his gf has 2 kids….

    and he was kicked out of the bar! he shoul have CALLED A TAXI AND GONE HOME! END OF STORY

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  4. You stupid fucks have no clue what the Hell you’re talking about do you. Mr. Anonymous you should quit posting what you’ve heard and believe as if it is a fact. For one what does questioning Smileys responsibility for his actions have to do with shit. Yeah, he was drunker then shit out celebrating the birth of his second child Shannaya, not sure if that is correct spelling of name. {He does have three children two biological, Shannaya, Ceaser 2.5 years old, and Triston 7 years old who Justin has raised since he was two, the kid tried running in front of a train not long after the incident, so keep YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT WHEN IT COMES TO HIS FAMILY, YOU DON’T KNOW THEM, GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEM, OR HAVE ANY FACTUAL INFO. PERTAINING TO THEM} and his graduation with honours from Technical college. And yeah, he may have been out of line when he got kicked out and also when trying to re-enter the establishment, so kill the fuck, is that what you’re saying with your “Smiley’s responsibly[responsibility as it should say] for his own actions” bullshit. Beat his ass, throw him in jail, ban him from there, probation so he can’t drink, all those would have been acceptable, understandable, expected. He’s fucking dead. And I don’t think that anybody is putting blame on the Red Carpet, it was the actions of a few individuals which are to blame, PLAIN AND SIMPLE, they are to blame. But like me most of the others are very upset at the fact that the Red Carpet stands behind these men, particularily Paul Bubboltz, and claims that Paul has done nothing wrong, that he handled the situation with in his rights. Get the fuck out of here, of course they do, if they admit that this guy fucked up then they wouldn’t have a defense against the lawsuit being filed against them.. ‘Mr. Anonymous Previos employee’ you really do sound like a fucking idiot in this post. I’ve already begun and will continue to rip apart damn near everything you said. Like the ” it would be no different if smiley drinks and drives shit” No the cop wouldn’t be responsible for the DWI, but he would be charged and held accountable if Smiley were to take a swing at him, and so he decided to choke him for 7-10 minutes while he’s no longer moving {I’ve talked with a percentage of the witnesses saying there was no movement} and to the point of death or severe brain damage. The cop would get charged, plain and simple, and this comparison makes a lot more sense then the shit you were talkin about.
    The bouncer was protecting other guests, that’s it huh, a bouncer is not actually supposed engage a person once he is out the doors, shut them, call the cops, and let them deal with it. I mean you work in an enviroment where drunks get beligerant, if you can’t restrain a guy with a blood alc. level of .30 or higher with out killing him you’re in the field of work. The only thing you said that was right was he should have called a taxi and went home, then he’d still be alive today. St. Paddy’s day 2005, 7pm, I Ryan O’Hara{I’m sure all you Red Carpet Fucks know who the Hell I am, be men when you post, if you got somthing to say don’t hide, you can bring it to me if you want, come to my face with this bullshit you spittin about Smiley, what up Storms, fuck I met you through Smiley man, I have no ill will towards you but I lost respect for you when you tried to defend Mr. bubboltz’s actions.}, anyways, I Ryan O’Hara was getting kicked out of The Press Bar, the bouncer, Seth I think was his name, held the door open and so I ran up on him and hit him in his shit a couple of times. We tussled a little bit, I belive I gave him a bloody nose and a lip, and he split my skin underneath my lip, 1 stitch, a few other bumps and bruises. The cops came and I got arrested, went to court, am on probation, and not allowed inside the Press very often anymore. I’m not dead, that is the way the situation should have been handled, I was completely out of line, I appologized to him, just as Justin should be alive to do also. How many bouncers were present at the time,
    come on, I’m sure he was really a tough guy as drunk as he was, fully with in right to kill him I’m sure, what was I thinking that I thought maybe being drunk and beligerent towards a bouncer downtown doesnt deserve death, it was all his own fault for swinging, they shouldn’t have even tried to save him.

    A few more things for the original post about Smiley and the Red Carpet. Yes I have formed a negative
    opinion about the Red Carpet Security, not because of that incident, but because they chose to stand behind this guy Bubboltz, fuck him and fuck you to. I understand how down town works, I know most bouncers in most bars, I know most of the waitresses and bartenders also. Been a regular at most of the downtown bars befor half of the people that work there have worked there. I’ve been in fights down town defending many of the staff, mainly the Press, and don’t agree with harrassing waitresses, i can start popping off names of down town employees that will attest to this, or people that had worked down there for many years, Sara Flor {May} for one. Anyways, Nobody is saying you should have let him stay or let him back in(Damn thats a big part of your arguement, trying to focus on that as if thats the issue you keep going on and on about the implications of letting him stay, nobodies saying you should have let him stay, what I hear is you wrong for killing him PERIOD), of course kick him out, call the cops, get him thrown in detox, fuck, take him in the alley and beat him up, all things I would understand. “Laughing
    with contempt” Assault and battered the bouncer huh, like I’ve already stated, I talked with a large portion of people that witnessed it, more like a half cocked barely able to swing stumble into being over come quite easily as a few more bouncers lend a hand in the killing. I like how you try throwing the drug thing in there you roid raging shrunken balled fucks, how hard was the hit when the Autopsy reports came back clean, nothing but alcohal in his system, and obviosly from the charges filed, the guy choked him to hard to long. And what conviction are you talking about, I don’t believe he has any drug convictions,
    I’m not his attourney or family so I might be wrong, but I think this was just more bullshit trying to sway people not to side with us, so they would continue drinking at the Red Carpet so the Gaetz’s can make more money. “BAD LUCK….BAD DECISION MAKING” you make and take the death of my friend a to lightly, and this is where I continue to form my negatie opinions, come say some shit like that to my face you fucking piece of shit… You are just a bitch, BITCH, you think he should be held responsible for acting like an idiot, me to, unfortunatly he’s no longer here to be held resposible for anything, so you can quit with that angle. I’ll never step foot in The Red Carpet again unless I’m coming in swinging….

    Fuck you for reading if you are a Red Carpet supporter, patrent, relative, or even if you own a red carpet.

    Thank you for reading all others,

    Ryan O’Hara

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